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needtosay wrote:
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I want to hear big mouth Trump, who has an opinion on everything, come out and tell us what he thinks of these terrorists. The place would have been stormed already if these red-necks were anything but white, in fact I think it's safe to say they would be dead already. The republicans would be preaching about how they deserved what they got and that the trash had been taken out.
I am not so sure about that. Black Lives matter took over shopping malls and airport access and no one killed any of them. It is a protest just like Black Lives Matter. The one difference being is these guys seem to doing a long term takeover whereas the BLM people only did short term take overs. Both groups are protesting things that they are wrong.
The one difference???
Another difference is that one group is holding an armed occupation & the other held unarmed disruptions . As well, as one group is threatening to kill Federal agents if they try to remove them & the other group did no such thing..And one group believes the Federal government is illegitimate & really should not exist & the other is trying to deal with inequalities in our government by protesting, lobbying legislatures both state & federal & meeting with Presidential candidates..
And you only see ONE difference?
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These ARMED men are NOT using toy guns....they are ready to kill anyone that tries to remove them.
They are protesting the conviction of two ranchers who set fire to federal land because they said they were protecting their property.
Those convicted men, part of the Hammond family were convicted of arson and though they disagreed with the conviction, are willingly reporting to federal prison to serve their time. They have also distanced themselves from these so-called protesters that have taken over this federal building in Oregon..
This so called militia group, broke into the building and stated they are not leaving. They have threatened to kill anyone,who tries to remove them from the property.
I repeat...its not going to end well for them...And before the shooting starts and innocent people die, they need to be stopped..
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Ruby Ridge, Waco........
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esm wrote:
Ruby Ridge, Waco........
Word!!
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Protesters in Ferguson were met with armored vehicles, police in riot & military gear & tear gas
Armed militia in Oregon were met with..............NOTHING!!
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I say leave them out there until the spring. Why risk lives and manpower to toss them out of a building no one seems to be using? They are desperate for a confrontation; why give it to them?
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Spunky wrote:
esm wrote:
Ruby Ridge, Waco........
Word!!
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AdminShiny wrote:
I say leave them out there until the spring. Why risk lives and manpower to toss them out of a building no one seems to be using? They are desperate for a confrontation; why give it to them?
I agree, cut their power and their phone and their access to utilities and let them hang out all winter. They want a deadlyconfrontation more than anything. Except snacks. they've already put it out on the inter webs that they would like some snacks.
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esm wrote:
AdminShiny wrote:
I say leave them out there until the spring. Why risk lives and manpower to toss them out of a building no one seems to be using? They are desperate for a confrontation; why give it to them?
I agree, cut their power and their phone and their access to utilities and let them hang out all winter. They want a deadlyconfrontation more than anything. Except snacks. they've already put it out on the inter webs that they would like some snacks.
I thought these were rough ranchers and men's men who could live off the land. I guess not. Let's see how they feel after a winter of Slim Jims and Twinkies, no power and no wifi.
It's not like the people going to jail for arson are even part of this protest. Seems like a really disorganized bunch of cowboys who have a lot of shiny guns to show off and not much of a plan.
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esm wrote:
Spunky wrote:
esm wrote:
Ruby Ridge, Waco........
Word!!
Lol. You are too much Spunky.
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These folks should not get away with this. Bundy obviously thinks he gained momentum with his last escapade making him feel confidant about this one. What makes him feel he has the right to do this? (rhetorical question)
Get that fool behind bars.
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First of all let he assure you all I don't approve of what these guys are doing. I don't think it is right. I think calling it terrorism might be a bit strong. And the implication in one post here was that if it weren't white men they would have been shot already or forcibly removed. This is what I took issue with. Do you remember Waco? Those were white people and that situation ended in violence. I do think there is a good chance that this situation will end the same way.
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I'm sorry, I know this is serious but some of the comments made me LOL "snacks, Twinkies, Drones..
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NESunrise wrote:
I'm sorry, I know this is serious but some of the comments made me LOL "snacks, Twinkies, Drones..
Hey NE...how've you been with your cold feet (you know flip flops)...lol
I had thick socks on over my jeans and boots up to my knees when I went out this morning...oh and a hat and thick scarf on too....and I still felt that wind...lol
About my drone comment...isn't that what they used on the terrorists to blast them out? Well, these crazies are terrorists and should be treated the same way.....
The food comment I guess, that's what people in the bush carry around with them in order to survive.....twinkies??? yuck I never liked them.
I say first cut the wifi, and electricity.......then threaten to use a drone...that will get them to get out of there...
If I had NO wifi...that would be it for me.....I'd give up fast.....and have to go o the library????? no noway could I survive that....lol
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needtosay wrote:
First of all let he assure you all I don't approve of what these guys are doing. I don't think it is right. I think calling it terrorism might be a bit strong. And the implication in one post here was that if it weren't white men they would have been shot already or forcibly removed. This is what I took issue with. Do you remember Waco? Those were white people and that situation ended in violence. I do think there is a good chance that this situation will end the same way.
It may seem a bit strong to you, but technically, thats exactly what it is. And I dont believe they dont want it to end exactly the same way, isnt that enough to classify them as terrorists?
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My cold feet are fine!! LOL I love the cold weather. All that extraneous outerwear is only for sub zero temps, oh and snow-wouldn't want frostbite
I agree about the Drones, it just appeared funny as I was reading down. Terrorists are terrorists-no special treatment. They need snacks cracked me up. Idiots -all of 'em but dangerous idiots. But they are "white patriots" (cough, cough) so more than likely they'll get their Twinkies.
Wifi I can live without, I'm strictly old school, crayons and paper type LOL
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@ NE......yeah... feed them twinkies that should do it....
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esm wrote:
needtosay wrote:
First of all let he assure you all I don't approve of what these guys are doing. I don't think it is right. I think calling it terrorism might be a bit strong. And the implication in one post here was that if it weren't white men they would have been shot already or forcibly removed. This is what I took issue with. Do you remember Waco? Those were white people and that situation ended in violence. I do think there is a good chance that this situation will end the same way.
It may seem a bit strong to you, but technically, thats exactly what it is. And I dont believe they dont want it to end exactly the same way, isnt that enough to classify them as terrorists?
I agree...with esm and need....They do seem to want this showdown to end badly....
The definition of domestic terrorism from the FBI website is as follows:"Domestic terrorism" means activities with the following three characteristics:
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needtosay wrote:
First of all let he assure you all I don't approve of what these guys are doing. I don't think it is right. I think calling it terrorism might be a bit strong. And the implication in one post here was that if it weren't white men they would have been shot already or forcibly removed. This is what I took issue with. Do you remember Waco? Those were white people and that situation ended in violence. I do think there is a good chance that this situation will end the same way.
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Who implied that this wouldn't end violently?..It may..because that is what these anti government militia men want...White people are killed by law enforcement & to think not is silly...My opinion is that if these were not white men, they would already be dead most likely because I'm sure if police are threatened by unarmed blacks & lone blacks with ANYTHING in their hands, they would definitely be threatened by 150 armed black men threatening to kill anyone who tried to remove them.They usually don't negotiate, assess the situation & they definitely don't do nothing like they are doing in this incident.. No, when blacks are involved, they shoot first & claim that they feraed for their lives later... Do you remember John Crawford, Laquan McDonald, and Walter Scott?
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Oregon loon sends hilarious farewell message to his family.