Don't get the fuss. Don't we know we have all been in bathrooms with transgenders already?  Probably many times? And if anyone is looking that hard to see if someone is transgender or not, then who really has the problem?

needtosay wrote:

Like I said it creates a safety issue for women and children not because of transgendered people but because of the perverts who will pose as transgendered to gain access to women's bathrooms and commit perverse acts. Dolly, that is what I am talking about. Most public bathrooms are nothing like what you show but that is what needs to be done. 

 
Let us break this down.
Transgender ppl have been using the bathroom they have feel represents them & they have been for decades without incident. What has changed?

Who is the largest group of pedophiles? Straight males. Guess who their target is? Boys. Guess who uses the same restroom without question?

So is this truly about safety? I think not. It is beyond obvious what this is about.

Side note: every public bathroom I have ever used had stalls with doors. If they did not have doors I highly doubt many women would be using them, regardless of transgender.

Btw how are we really able to determine who is who? Are we to give a polite vagina flash to anyone in the restroom to assure them of our gender? Sorry need that was a general statement toward the issue & not directed at you .

Last edited by Vantro (4/25/2016 8:18 am)

For me it is about safety and nothing else. You all can think what you want but I worry that it will open the door to perverts who will pose as transgendered to come into the womens room to do their depraved acts. I don't worry about actual transgendered people or sharing bathrooms with them.  I do not think they are perverts and I do not think they are predispositioned to molest kids or rape women.  I am not scared of transgendered people. I am afraid of perverts who will take advantage of the law change.
 

Last edited by needtosay (4/25/2016 11:28 am)

Without a law a man cannot just walk into a womens bathroom and use it.  I think what you are trying to tell me is that a transgendered man will have to use the ladies room.  I am suggesting that they keep using the bathrooms they use now which is probably the mens room.  If they are already doing it an no one is the wiser then why push this law which will have the unfortunate side effect of opening the doors to posers?

what I'm saying is this:  first there are transgender people using the rest room of the sex with which they identify now...so there are, to put in terms that are not accurate but necessary to make my point, "men" dressed as women in the ladies room and "women" dressed as men using the men's room.  you just aren't aware of it because they look just like everyone else.

If a man who identifies as a woman is forced to use the men's room, that person will be using the men's room "dressed" as a woman and there will be woman who identify as men being forced to use the men's room "dressed"as men.  again, the only way you will know they are transgender is because they are in the "wrong" rest room based on what they're wearing. 

So that being said, I would just assume that any "man" I saw in the ladies room was transgender and forced to use the bathroom of their birth sex.  That means a "pervert" as you put it, could just walk right into the ladies room and assault a woman because no one would stop him from walking in.  They wouldn't even have to dress as a woman.  They could just walk in and out as a man, and everyone would assume they are transgender but forced to use the bathroom that co-responds to their birth sex.

if a man wants to go to the trouble of dressing like a woman just so he can enter the ladies room and assault women, he can do that now.  There is nothing stopping him so your argument doesn't hold water.

I agree there is no need for a law. 

'Cossy, you have the patience of a saint and I applaud you  This particular post explained it perfectly. "


everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I respect that. I just want to be clear about where I stand and why.

Look what is happening now because they started pushing for law changes to allow transgendered to use bathrooms of their choice.  Women who don't look very feminine are being forced out of bathrooms because someone didn't think they were really a woman. In the light of the fact that transgendered people were already using bathrooms of their choices wouldn't it have been better to just leave things alone?  It opened a couple cans of worms that didn't need to be opened.  Sometimes it is just better to suck it up and accept things as they are and work around them.