This story just makes me so sad, Dori.

I grew up loving Bill Cosby (as most of us did). I was about 10 when the Fat Albert cartoon was on and I have just always thought BC was such a moral guy. The shows were always about being better, doing better, trying harder. Then with the Cosby Show, I thought he was Heathcliff Huxtable. I loved that show. The family, the lessons, the love not to mention the laughter. Now it is all ruined I don't think I could ever watch the Cosby Show again without feeling sick.

I can not even imagine what all of these women must have went through. The shame, blaming themselves for trusting him, that must have been so overwhelming. He had so much power in Hollywood. He was so respected, pretty much untouchable. He knew he had that power & he used it.

I am so proud of these women for standing together to face the demon. I am not sure he will ever be prosecuited because of that statute of limitations but he has suffered greatly (not enough I know!) due to all of these women stepping forward & finally speaking out. His reputation has gone from hero to zero.  I do think some cases could be won in civil court, since the rules are different. I hope this is the case. I am sure Gloria Allred will see to it!

The other thing that makes me sick about this case is his wife, Camile. I just don't see how she couldn't have known. It makes no sense. Especially with all of these women coming forward now. She has to look back & see the truth (if she didn't know it all along). It can't be about money because she could divorce him and get at least half of his fortune.

Hey Dori, I've been keeping up on this story too. He was deposed two Fridays ago, but it hasn't been made public yet and probably won't until the trial, if they need one. He has two choices: go to trial for this one and take his chances, or start paying them out. 

I really loved that show when I was a kid. One of the few shows our whole family watched together. I'll still remember those times fondly, but I'll never be able to watch it again in reruns without feeling sick.

I wonder how many young actresses who passed through that set were abused. 

Dori wrote:

Thank you Shiny , I dont think this girl is going to settle for money.It was said she will call all of the women if necessary!  He gives me the creeps in what he was doing with some of these women! reminds me of men having sex with dead women! Whatever those men are called!  I think Cosby is a sick individual!

I know what you mean. Like what is the difference between having sex with a dead person and having sex with a person who is unconscious?

 

needtosay wrote:

This woman is suing him civily isn't she?  I thought they couldn't bring criminal charges against him because of the statute of limitations.  Too much time has passed.  I still struggle with this whole thing because it doesn't seem like that many women could be lying at the same time it doesn't seem likely that so many women would be drugged and raped and no one reported it when it happened. Not one of them went to the police or did a rape kit. 

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------LOS ANGELES (KABC) --The Bill Cosby sexual assault scandal may move from the court of opinion to a real one.

An alleged victim filed a civil suit against the comedian on Tuesday, and the law firm representing her says it's the first case to fall within California's statute of limitations.

Chloe Goins, 25, accuses Cosby of drugging and sexually assaulting her. They're the same claims made by dozens of other women.

Goins says she was a teenager when Cosby sexually assaulted her at the Playboy Mansion in 2008. Nine months ago, she reported it to police, and on Tuesday her attorney filed a federal civil lawsuit against the 78-year-old Cosby seeking compensatory and punitive damages.

"Today I recognize that I've taken legal action that many of the other victims of Bill Cosby will never be able to take," said Goins. "For that reason, I offer this message to those brave women: your experience was just like mine and mine just like yours. We are not alone, we did not ask for these attacks, and these attacks are not our fault."

The lawsuit alleges Cosby committed one count of sexual childhood abuse after drugging Goins with a drink at the Playboy Mansion.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------If people do not believe these women now ,doesnt that explain why they didnt come forward when it happened? He was the revered Dr Huxtable! Beloved and powerful! Some did attempt to report it and were told no proof! The list of these women ,the dates and their stories are available ,just Google! Heres a simple question.If hes innocent ,why not just take a lie detector test! Hes a guilty as sin ,in my eyes! 

I guess it might be my turn to weigh in on this one. I never got the opportunity to work with, visit or meet Bill Cosby, at any point in my life, but as a teenager I did go to a house party with a guy I was infatuated with who's name happened to be Bill, though they were two different people as the one I was interested in was white. Just saying, I'm fairly sure I could have told them apart, up until I got my first drink of "punch" . When I woke up, I was naked, in a king size bed and Bill was having a really good time.....me, not so much. I passed back out and when I came to again there was someone else in the room, I screamed, sort of, although it sounds more like a frog croaking really loudly, and I managed to scare that guy out of the room, but then I passed out again. The next time I came to, there was a third guy in the room and yep, it was his turn.


My point? What the hell did Cos give these girls that they didn't come to once or twice? Look, I understand not going to the police and all that. I didn't. I went to that party willingly. I fully intended to sleep with Bill. Not the other guy but whatever, it was the 70's, you know, "Sex, drugs and rock & roll". It wasn't until many years later I made a reference to that incident to a cop friend of mine that he called it rape. I laughed at him, to which he got moderately offended, and reminded him that no cop, court or judge would have touched a case like that in 1979 and my friend looked me right in the eyes and said, "You're right." When you walked in the door of your own free will, "No." didn't mean sh!t and if you were too drugged to say "No", it meant even less.

needtosay wrote:

I guess what I don't understand is how can they be so traumatized now when they were so easily able to just just brush it off then and go on with their lives.  These rapes supposedly happened 20, 30, 40 years ago.  Another thing I question is can a person be that drugged by just two sips of a drink like one of the victims claims to be? 

   

The idea of trauma coming back up after a long period of time is the mind's way of finally dealing with a situation and trying to find closure. I get that, and I have experienced that sort of delayed memory in my own life. It is a protective measure for our memories to not expose us to our own experiences sometime if for no other reason than survival. As for the the "one sip", that is precisely how many it takes for some of the date rape drugs out there. I can attest to that one too. 

needtosay wrote:

I know that emotional trauma that went haven't dealt with can come back to haunt us years later.  That does happen.  I guess it is the large numbers of women who it is apparently happening to collectively makes me question it.  It just doesn't seem likely that they all would have taken the same course through their trauma.

 

Maybe some of them feel comfortable enough with the others coming forth.  They believe as a group they will now be heard but as an individual did not have that confidence.

I think you nailed it .Iwantodance2.Thats exactly what most said . The latest came forth for support because of the negative comments about them! Beverly Johnson came forth not because she was raped but to tell her story of being drugged ,him putting her in a cab very drowsy and not remembering how she got home!  The only reason he didnt go thru with it was because she immediately knew he put something in the drink(because she had done drugs) She freaked out on him ,,cussing him out and I guess he couldnt handle her and threw her in a cab!I think she used her position to support their claim! That took courage ,I thought!

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needtosay wrote:

I know that emotional trauma that went haven't dealt with can come back to haunt us years later.  That does happen.  I guess it is the large numbers of women who it is apparently happening to collectively makes me question it.  It just doesn't seem likely that they all would have taken the same course through their trauma.

I agree need!...Personally I can't stand the man...can't even stand to see his face...but 60 women seems a bit much. He must be on super viagra...lol....IMO, I think some are looking for their pay day
 

I think more believe them and understand why they kept silent all these years! It doesnt really matter,I think they accomplished their goal! Hes been exposed as being the derelict he really is!  As far as the effect of the drugs ,everyone is different . I could be knocked out with Benadryl!     It is what it is! If he couldve cleared his name ,he would have! I think this man is a hateful racist!  bottom line ,control and degrading his victims! As the black comedian (Sorry dont recall his name) said ," Time to pull up your pants ,Mr Cosby! "
 

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