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It was just announced that he has been fired. I would expect the charges/civil litigation to start soon.
I still don't know what that guy was thinking, using that degree of force on a 16 year old girl.
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I saw a video of that this morning...I couldn't believe it!..
He should have just asked the other students to leave the room before he approached her...clearly she was out of control...but he made it worse. Without an audience, perhaps she would have calmed down and then she would have complied with his request.
I'm surprised that the teacher didn't suggest that...
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Spunky wrote:
I saw a video of that this morning...I couldn't believe it!..
He should have just asked the other students to leave the room before he approached her...clearly she was out of control...but he made it worse. Without an audience, perhaps she would have calmed down and then she would have complied with his request.
I'm surprised that the teacher didn't suggest that...
I mean, I understand that the student was misbehaving and refusing to take any direction from anyone. But unless she was armed, I cannot think of a reason he would have to slam her so violently to the ground and then drag her away. He is lucky she didn't snap her neck.
I have taught high school for years and I have had a few situations where I needed to call in some assistance. If someone slammed a kid to the ground like that, staff or resource officer, I would be calling the police and an ambulance.
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AdminShiny wrote:
It was just announced that he has been fired. I would expect the charges/civil litigation to start soon.
I still don't know what that guy was thinking, using that degree of force on a 16 year old girl.
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that's the point he was not thinking just reaction
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Spunky wrote:
I saw a video of that this morning...I couldn't believe it!..
He should have just asked the other students to leave the room before he approached her...clearly she was out of control...but he made it worse. Without an audience, perhaps she would have calmed down and then she would have complied with his request.
I'm surprised that the teacher didn't suggest that...
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Spunky that is just what I would have done, ask the other students to leave the room, and yes she was out of control and was going to do what she wanted to do, and all he did was to make it worst and lose his job.
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AdminShiny wrote:
Spunky wrote:
I saw a video of that this morning...I couldn't believe it!..
He should have just asked the other students to leave the room before he approached her...clearly she was out of control...but he made it worse. Without an audience, perhaps she would have calmed down and then she would have complied with his request.
I'm surprised that the teacher didn't suggest that...I mean, I understand that the student was misbehaving and refusing to take any direction from anyone. But unless she was armed, I cannot think of a reason he would have to slam her so violently to the ground and then drag her away. He is lucky she didn't snap her neck.
I have taught high school for years and I have had a few situations where I needed to call in some assistance. If someone slammed a kid to the ground like that, staff or resource officer, I would be calling the police and an ambulance.
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there was no reason for him to do what he did, but why her parent called
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snapzz wrote:
AdminShiny wrote:
Spunky wrote:
I saw a video of that this morning...I couldn't believe it!..
He should have just asked the other students to leave the room before he approached her...clearly she was out of control...but he made it worse. Without an audience, perhaps she would have calmed down and then she would have complied with his request.
I'm surprised that the teacher didn't suggest that...I mean, I understand that the student was misbehaving and refusing to take any direction from anyone. But unless she was armed, I cannot think of a reason he would have to slam her so violently to the ground and then drag her away. He is lucky she didn't snap her neck.
I have taught high school for years and I have had a few situations where I needed to call in some assistance. If someone slammed a kid to the ground like that, staff or resource officer, I would be calling the police and an ambulance.**********************
there was no reason for him to do what he did, but why her parent called
A lot of times, kids snap out of it and straighten up when a parent or family member shows up. Also, a parent might know what is upsetting the child or how to better calm them down. The parent would also be able to give consent to a more physical approach after all else has failed.
I just don't think there is any reason for a large male officer to violently assault a young female just because she was not following orders and disrupting the class. Surely that is not enough to warrant a potential serious injury?
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snapzz wrote:
AdminShiny wrote:
I mean, I understand that the student was misbehaving and refusing to take any direction from anyone. But unless she was armed, I cannot think of a reason he would have to slam her so violently to the ground and then drag her away. He is lucky she didn't snap her neck.
I have taught high school for years and I have had a few situations where I needed to call in some assistance. If someone slammed a kid to the ground like that, staff or resource officer, I would be calling the police and an ambulance.**********************
there was no reason for him to do what he did, but why her parent called
A lot of times, kids snap out of it and straighten up when a parent or family member shows up. Also, a parent might know what is upsetting the child or how to better calm them down. The parent would also be able to give consent to a more physical approach after all else has failed.
I just don't think there is any reason for a large male officer to violently assault a young female just because she was not following orders and disrupting the class. Surely that is not enough to warrant a potential serious injury?
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I agree but was the parent of other family members call at all. do you know
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They weren't called before the incident, they were only notified afterwards.
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If a parent disciplined their child like that, they would be in jail. The girl deserves punishment, but what the _ell is happening in this country, don't these cops know how to deal with anything properly anymore? Can you imagine all they've gotten away with over the years when there wasn't anyone filming anything they were doing. We wonder why kids don't respect cops any more. There are more good cops than bad, but they need to clean up their own in order to get the public's respect back. If you can't handle an un-armed teenager, you sure can't handle a more dangerous situation. These cops also seem to be above the law, anyone else who did this to this girl would be charged with a crime.
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teluog wrote:
If a parent disciplined their child like that, they would be in jail. The girl deserves punishment, but what the _ell is happening in this country, don't these cops know how to deal with anything properly anymore? Can you imagine all they've gotten away with over the years when there wasn't anyone filming anything they were doing. We wonder why kids don't respect cops any more. There are more good cops than bad, but they need to clean up their own in order to get the public's respect back. If you can't handle an un-armed teenager, you sure can't handle a more dangerous situation. These cops also seem to be above the law, anyone else who did this to this girl would be charged with a crime.
^^^^ This !!!! Perfect! I also heard someone today (not sure who) say" that if you wouldn't call 911 then why would you call an SRO" (school resource officer) which that particular officer was. Their job is not to be disciplinarians- they are there to protect the students.
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They weren't called before the incident, they were only notified afterwards.
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right that shoud have been the first person the school should have called before calling the officer jmo
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teluog wrote:
If a parent disciplined their child like that, they would be in jail. The girl deserves punishment, but what the _ell is happening in this country, don't these cops know how to deal with anything properly anymore? Can you imagine all they've gotten away with over the years when there wasn't anyone filming anything they were doing. We wonder why kids don't respect cops any more. There are more good cops than bad, but they need to clean up their own in order to get the public's respect back. If you can't handle an un-armed teenager, you sure can't handle a more dangerous situation. These cops also seem to be above the law, anyone else who did this to this girl would be charged with a crime.
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you are so right if a parent did that they would be in jail for sure.
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Having no speakers on this computer limits what I can view online to silent movies, but I was able to read an article about this that states that the girl's mother died recently and that she has been a less than model student since that happened. If the teachers, faculty and SRO would get to know these kids, instead just assuming they are all bad children, situations like this one wouldn't exist. A counselor should have been called in, in place of the resource officer in my opinion, but then hind sight is 20/20.
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MamaSqu wrote:
Having no speakers on this computer limits what I can view online to silent movies, but I was able to read an article about this that states that the girl's mother died recently and that she has been a less than model student since that happened. If the teachers, faculty and SRO would get to know these kids, instead just assuming they are all bad children, situations like this one wouldn't exist. A counselor should have been called in, in place of the resource officer in my opinion, but then hind sight is 20/20.
I completely agree MamaSqu. It is even more sad that this girl was clearly hurting and no one noticed or even thought maybe her behaviour was a cry for help. She should have been getting support from the school, and in fact, that is what the main purpose of the SRO is. Kind of ironic that he was the one to slam her head into the ground. I bet her trust level is at zero right now.
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How many of us have an accurate memory of our high school days? I remember mine were a certain way in my head, and yet a few years ago I had the opportunity to see one of the girls that I had gone to school with in the 9th grage, and was completely floored by what her memories of those days were by comparison. Her name is Jenny, we had three classes together and I was not in her clicque' at all, although there was never any bad blood between us, we were okay with remaining acquaintances the whole year. Fast forward 30 years later and she walked into the store I was working at and although she couldn't remember my name, she did recall it was a unique name and that I was, in her words, one of the popular girls. (Do What ?!?!?!) I turned around to see if someone was standing behind me. I was never popular in school, I was tolerated in all clicques but a member of none. I was a loner through high school and a cameleon by nature, there was no place I couldn't enter unnoticed short of the boys locker room. In her eyes, that made me popular and in mine it made me invisible.
With this sort of knowledge into the teenage mind, and the views and perspectives of such, how tough would it really be to exude a handful of empathy for teens, learn to empower them and fortify them for their own good, and stop assuming that bad behavior is permanent when nothing at that age is except the loss of a family member to death?
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AdminShiny wrote:
MamaSqu wrote:
Having no speakers on this computer limits what I can view online to silent movies, but I was able to read an article about this that states that the girl's mother died recently and that she has been a less than model student since that happened. If the teachers, faculty and SRO would get to know these kids, instead just assuming they are all bad children, situations like this one wouldn't exist. A counselor should have been called in, in place of the resource officer in my opinion, but then hind sight is 20/20.
I completely agree MamaSqu. It is even more sad that this girl was clearly hurting and no one noticed or even thought maybe her behaviour was a cry for help. She should have been getting support from the school, and in fact, that is what the main purpose of the SRO is. Kind of ironic that he was the one to slam her head into the ground. I bet her trust level is at zero right now.
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ITA and thank you for the other information about her mother I did not know about that at all, and can more understand why she may have been out of control.
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If you read the comment's sections following every article on this story, the people supporting this cop and the disparaging remarks about this teenager are so over the top it's scary. So many think this is how a teenager who was misbehaving should be disciplined and so many insist the cop didn't throw her around he just dragged her! Could this be how all of them handle their own children, I doubt it, but it's acceptable for the way this girl was treated? It's called abuse. I thought cops were suppose to take control of a situation in a way that garnered respect for the badge. Does anyone think the other students in that class now have a great respect for the police? When the police act worse than the person breaking the rules, it's time to wake up and start doing something about it, not keep making up excuses for the behavior. Her only weapon was a cell phone, surely someone in authority could have come up with a better way of disciplining this girl. So many out there supporting this police officer and showing real hatred for this teenager. She needs to learn she can't just do whatever she wants to without consequences, but abusing her isn't going to teach her respect for those in charge.
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If you read the comment's sections following every article on this story, the people supporting this cop and the disparaging remarks about this teenager are so over the top it's scary. So many think this is how a teenager who was misbehaving should be disciplined and so many insist the cop didn't throw her around he just dragged her! Could this be how all of them handle their own children, I doubt it, but it's acceptable for the way this girl was treated? It's called abuse. I thought cops were suppose to take control of a situation in a way that garnered respect for the badge. Does anyone think the other students in that class now have a great respect for the police? When the police act worse than the person breaking the rules, it's time to wake up and start doing something about it, not keep making up excuses for the behavior. Her only weapon was a cell phone, surely someone in authority could have come up with a better way of disciplining this girl. So many out there supporting this police officer and showing real hatred for this teenager. She needs to learn she can't just do whatever she wants to without consequences, but abusing her isn't going to teach her respect for those in charge.
I absolutely agree!! I read one comment that was demanding that the girl be arrested & if not it would be because she was black!! WTF? I had to ask, "arrested? Wth for?". Ppl are delusional. The girl is a typical mouthy teen girl. We all know teen girls can snap & become the most disrespectful creatures on earth. I certainly hope cops don't think this how you handle a mouthy hormonal teenager who is unarmed, sitting down & posing no threat! It seems there are many cops out there who are frightened to do their job so their instinct is to get violent OR (& most likely) they can't handle their ego getting poked. Cop just pulled his gun over fake spiders. Yes this man, a " trained" professional entrusted to protect our safety with a weapon tried to use that weapon to kill a fake spider. Yeah, no....no problem with police in this country. I think I am better off not calling police for help. I might accidentally get shot!
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teluog wrote:
If you read the comment's sections following every article on this story, the people supporting this cop and the disparaging remarks about this teenager are so over the top it's scary. So many think this is how a teenager who was misbehaving should be disciplined and so many insist the cop didn't throw her around he just dragged her! Could this be how all of them handle their own children, I doubt it, but it's acceptable for the way this girl was treated? It's called abuse. I thought cops were suppose to take control of a situation in a way that garnered respect for the badge. Does anyone think the other students in that class now have a great respect for the police? When the police act worse than the person breaking the rules, it's time to wake up and start doing something about it, not keep making up excuses for the behavior. Her only weapon was a cell phone, surely someone in authority could have come up with a better way of disciplining this girl. So many out there supporting this police officer and showing real hatred for this teenager. She needs to learn she can't just do whatever she wants to without consequences, but abusing her isn't going to teach her respect for those in charge.
I absolutely agree!! I read one comment that was demanding that the girl be arrested & if not it would be because she was black!! WTF? I had to ask, "arrested? Wth for?". Ppl are delusional. The girl is a typical mouthy teen girl. We all know teen girls can snap & become the most disrespectful creatures on earth. I certainly hope cops don't think this how you handle a mouthy hormonal teenager who is unarmed, sitting down & posing no threat! It seems there are many cops out there who are frightened to do their job so their instinct is to get violent OR (& most likely) they can't handle their ego getting poked. Cop just pulled his gun over fake spiders. Yes this man, a " trained" professional entrusted to protect our safety with a weapon tried to use that weapon to kill a fake spider. Yeah, no....no problem with police in this country. I think I am better off not calling police for help. I might accidentally get shot!
I agree with both of you. This poor girls mother had recently died, and the girl was now living in foster care. I wonder if anyone had reached out to her before she was wrenched out of her desk and thrown to the ground.
I read that she has a cast on her arm and has neck and back injuries. I think it is a miracle she didn't break her neck.
But that's what she deserves for misbehaving in class, right?