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1/03/2016 4:37 pm  #61


Re: Tamir Rice

There have been cases of white people being killed or shot by police because they were brandishing fake guns.  For example last July a white man in Texas was shot and killed by police when he pointed a fake gun at the police.  I honestly think the police officers are reacting to a threat on their lives rather than the color of the suspects skin. 


No matter how educated, talented, rich, or cool you think you are, how you treat people tells us all.  Integrity is everything.
 

1/03/2016 5:13 pm  #62


Re: Tamir Rice

needtosay wrote:

There have been cases of white people being killed or shot by police because they were brandishing fake guns.  For example last July a white man in Texas was shot and killed by police when he pointed a fake gun at the police.  I honestly think the police officers are reacting to a threat on their lives rather than the color of the suspects skin. 

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That's A case, not cases. And are you referring to the case in Texas where Sergeant Gabriel Green and his partner, officer Kaylynn Griffin, were responding to a call about a man who had tried to shoplift a case of beer from a Walmart.

Employees told police they saw the man run into a nearby Applebee’s restaurant.

Sergeant Green found the man, James Bushey, inside the bathroom washing his hands. And ordered him to step outside.

Both cops walked Bushey out of the restaurant, requesting his identification where it looked to be headed for a routine arrest.

But once outside, Bushey pulled out a replica Colt 1911 .45 caliber handgun, prompting Griffin to yell out “gun, gun, gun!” as Green tried to wrap his arm around his neck.

Bushey broke free with the fake gun in his hand, then turned around as if he was going to shoot them.

Both officers opened fire, killing him on the spot.
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Are you seriously comparing this incident to what happened to Tamir Rice?
 Was Tamir accused of stealing anything?
 Did the officers take the time to try & walk Tamir out of the gazebo?
 Did Tamir try to flee? 
 Did Tamir POINT his gun at the officers?
 Did BOTH officers shoot Tamir?

I honestly believe some policemen are not fit for the job & some of those policemen need to be fired & some  need to be prosecuted & convicted...To pretend that every policeman is justified in their actions & are to be excused because their job is dangerous is making way for a police state imo...But it seems that some people only see a problem when it happens to people who look like them like the heroin epidemic...NOW people see it as a rehab issue as opposed to a prison issue....after years of hundreds of thousands of people languishing in prisons for years, now a police dept is telling it's citizens if they come in they will not be arrested but offered rehab & many jurisdictions are considering doing the same....I guess that's a coincidence too. SMH!

 I would feel the same way no matter what race Tamir Rice was....I don't think the DA & some of the people that support him could say the same.

 


"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
~Martin Luther King, Jr ~
 

1/03/2016 7:04 pm  #63


Re: Tamir Rice

Tamir didn't try to flee but he did reach for the gun.  Tamir was only shot by one of the offiers according to what I read.  Bushey wouldn't have  been walked out if he had pulled the gun in the restaurant.  Tamir wouldn't have been shot if he had not reached for the gun in his waste band. very similar cases IMO.


No matter how educated, talented, rich, or cool you think you are, how you treat people tells us all.  Integrity is everything.
 

1/03/2016 11:39 pm  #64


Re: Tamir Rice

If Tamir Rice were not black, he would be alive today. I believe this. Of course this incident has a racial component. And this was a kid who looked like a kid. I have not seen one picture of TR where he did not look like a 12 year old.
 

 

1/04/2016 11:41 am  #65


Re: Tamir Rice

needtosay wrote:

Tamir didn't try to flee but he did reach for the gun.  Tamir was only shot by one of the offiers according to what I read.  Bushey wouldn't have  been walked out if he had pulled the gun in the restaurant.  Tamir wouldn't have been shot if he had not reached for the gun in his waste band. very similar cases IMO.

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YOU say he reached for the gun, others who have seen the enhanced video says he did not. If the threat is reasonable then why is it that in many cases including Tamir Rice does only ONE officer shoot & usually they shoot many times? YOU say Bushey wouldn't have been walked out if he has pulled the gun, how do you know this ? What about the other examples I gave where people not only pulled guns but they pointed them and in some cases shot at police & ALL were arrested & not killed in less than 2 seconds without any tine to respond. YOU say Tamir wouldn't have been shot had he not reached for the gun, then why was John Crawford shot in the aisle at Walmart without reaching or pointing the toy gun at the policeman that shot him., And why was the the man in South Carolina & the young man in Chicago kiked while they were running away & why was the young man in Chicago shot & killed by one officer through a door , in the foyer of his home while carrying a baseball bat ?
 


"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
~Martin Luther King, Jr ~
 

1/04/2016 11:46 am  #66


Re: Tamir Rice

zeke wrote:

If Tamir Rice were not black, he would be alive today. I believe this. Of course this incident has a racial component. And this was a kid who looked like a kid. I have not seen one picture of TR where he did not look like a 12 year old.
 

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And I suspect that if Tamir Rice were a  white 12 year old boy playing with a toy gun in a park, many of the people that blame him for his own death & excuse the negligence of the police in this incident would have a very different opinion about the death.
 


"Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity."
~Martin Luther King, Jr ~
 

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